+ But I'm a Cheerleader review by Stephen Tropiano
We're all walking a tightrope
In an alternate universe, Jamie Babbit might have been
a cheerleader. She could pass for perky; and has the
kind of self-confidence, wit, and good humor that seem
necessary for such a high-energy line of work. But
she's not a cheerleader. She's a 20-something filmmaker
who's determined to make a difference. And so perhaps
it's not surprising that she's already had her share
of first-time-out kind of troubles with her first
feature, the highly stylized romantic comedy, But I'm a Cheerleader.
The cotton-candy-pink-and-blue-colored parody of
12-stepping homophobia initially received an NC-17
from the MPAA, who cited, among other things, a
non-graphic lesbian scene between stars Natasha Lyonne
and Clea Duvall. Babbit trimmed the scenes for an R
rating and then learned that Fine Line was dropping
the film two months before its April 2000 opening.
Lions Gate picked it up soon after, and Babbit's happy
with their handling of the film. For better or worse,
Babbit is used to dealing with censors, as both an
independent director (in 1998, she made the acclaimed
short, "Sleeping Beauties") and as a producer and
director on the WB's campy high school series,
Popular. With all this behind her, Babbit is a
lively interview subject, quick on her feet and
refreshingly honest.
Cynthia Fuchs:
How did you put the film together?
Jamie Babbit: I've worked my way up in film over the
past eight years, as a PA [production assistant],
through the ranks, starting in New York. I moved to LA
because I fell in love, and the girl I fell in love
with is a producer [Andrea Sperling]. I was pretty
miserable on some of these jobs, and she encouraged me
to make a change. She produced "Sleeping Beauties" and
I directed it. And after that, we were brainstorming
for a feature idea, and I had worked out an article on
an ex-gay conversion camp, like 4 years ago. I
couldn't write it, because, though I've never been
formally trained in either area, I know more about
directing than writing. So we found this random guy
[Brian Wayne Peterson],
who just graduated from USC Film School in the Writing
Program and had written a script about a gay cowboy,
which I liked, and I presented him a ten-page
treatment, plus a stack of research on conversion
camps, and he said sure. She was able to pull the
financing together, for $1 million, and then we called
everyone we knew -- we've both been in the business
for a while -- and had a great casting director, who
contacted a lot of different talent, who took the film
seriously, even though it was low budget. If you're
super-determined, things can work out.
CF: How was it working with your partner on this first
feature?
JB: It can be hard, but I've always had a second
producer. I think it actually made our relationship
better. My girlfriend is really good at her job. She's
produced 12 films, some of them for complete assholes,
with whom she's still friends, much to my chagrin.
She's so good at her job that I never once had a
question about what she was doing, and I think I'm a
lot nicer than some people she's worked with. It
worked well for us.
CF: Talk about the style of the film, which has been
compared to John Waters more than once.
JB: I have a pop sensibility, but the film includes
other types of things that I like, whether it's John
Waters or photographs by David La Chapelle. Edward Scissorhands was a really big influence on me, and
the whole Barbie collection: Barbie dreamhouse, Barbie
clothes, Barbie Barbie. The script is so simple and
conventional, a romantic comedy, I wanted to layer the
material in other ways. So I wanted the production
design to reflect the themes, like the artificiality
of gender construction, like you're more of a man if
you can chop wood. It's so stupid. The production
designer and costume designer and I worked out a
progression from the beginning where the look is more
organic, to something more plastic. So, in the first
scene in Megan's house, here's wood furniture and it's
brown, like earth. As soon as she drives to the
conversion camp, True Directions, the world becomes
more Technicolor-fake, and she goes from wearing
cotton to wearing polyester. In the end, everyone's
wearing plastic and everything is more and more
absurd, like the fake sky behind the door. And we
tried to give it a very homoerotic aspect, so that on
all the boys' sets, there are lots of phallic objects,
as jokes, but also showing how if you repress
something, it comes out in other ways.
CF: And how are you using camp in the film?
JB: The history of camp has pretty much been defined
by gay men, so I wanted to be sure that the film,
while using camp, also had real emotional moments,
that it was a romance. John Waters hates romantic
comedies; he thinks they're cheesy. But there's a
certain part of me that is cheesy. I'm a small town
girl when it comes to relationships, and I wanted to
tell a conventionally romantic story. So while there
are scenes of high camp, there are also scenes of the
girls sitting on a hill, talking about their lives.
Some people say that I'm trying to be John Waters but
the film doesn't have that bite; I don't want it to
have that bite. What's important to me is to have an
emotional center for the comedy. If I were writing a
paper about it, I'd say it's feminization of the camp
aesthetic, bringing emotion to something that's
hyperrealized.
CF: How do you work with our given vocabulary for
gender, visual as well as verbal, where all the terms
are binary?
JB: You make fun of it while celebrating it. It is a
love-hate relationship. We are stuck with this, the
language, images, history, archetypes. For all of that
I feel like it's possible to challenge and empower
ourselves through it. It's not unlike black people
appropriating the word "nigger." It's a shitty word,
with a bad history, but if you use it enough times
within your own context, it loses power. So, in the
past, "feminization" could mean something really
negative, like a weakening, but now it's different.
CF: Do you think there's a generational shift in
thinking about gender and sex identities and
conversion camps?
JB: Well, Exodus is certainly an extreme in 50s
thinking. It's a joke. But at the same time, it is all
around us, just more subtle and insidious than it
might have been once. My parents are super-liberal,
but my brother still had army men on his wallpaper,
and I had flowers and dolls.
CF: Mary Brown [the camp's head mistress, played by
Cathy Moriarty] seems the major embodiment of this
extremity.
JB: Well, yeah. She's germophobic, so everything is
plastic, and she's all about AIDS-paranoia and all
that stuff. And it's everything that's against nature,
so she doesn't have real flowers, she has plastic
flowers. She doesn't want anything organic, because
it's scary. That's in some ways based on my mother,
whose parents were hardcore alcoholic drug addicts. So
for her, if a room is messy, then her mom's getting
wasted. For me, it's just a messy room, but it makes
her depressed, and that's how Mary feels. Everything
has
to be ordered, and if not, it relates back to her son
or herself, or her husband [whom we never see] who's
run away to San Francisco.
CF: How do you see the film working through or
challenging the desire to be "normal"?
JB: The thing about being gay is that it doesn't
necessarily mean that you're a strong person. There
are plenty of people who can't deal in life and who
happen to be gay also, so it seems like just another
reason to be unhappy. In the film, Megan [Natasha
Lyonne] starts off as a cheerleader, that icon of
American femininity, which establishes the dichotomy,
"normal" and "perverted." And at the end, it comes
together, "pervert" and
"cheerleader." So the title has two points. At the
beginning, it's "but I'm a cheerleader, I'm not gay,"
and at the end, it's "but I'm a cheerleader and I am
gay." That's why she does the cheerleading at the end,
because I wanted her to be gay but still be who she
was, and not get on a Harley and ride off. Brian kept
telling me we needed to earmark her change somehow,
but I wanted her to keep her identity as a
cheerleader. In that way, the film challenges the
stereotypes even within the community.
CF: How are you thinking about the Rainbow guys, who
protest the camp, as stereotypes and
counter-stereotypes?
JB: The ex-ex-gays? Well, I wanted to poke fun at the
Religious Right, but also at my own community. I
certainly know people who own everything Rainbow ever
made, the mugs and the coasters and the wallpaper.
It's a little much.
CF: Can you talk some about the media representations
of gay teens, say, on the WB, where on Buffy, Tara
and Willow haven't been able to kiss yet on screen
(only in a cut away to Xander's reaction), but on
Dawson's, there's a brief kiss between boys, and
then a big letdown.
JB: The WB said that we could have a kiss [on
Popular], and two girls kissed, and then they made
me cut before the kiss. It was a big deal, because
they said yes and then no and then yes. And they ended
up saying, "You can put in the kiss, but it will draw
attention to the show." And right now, we have so many
lesbian references in the show that they would then
probably not get by the censors. So the executive
producer, who's gay, decided not to include the kiss.
We're always negotiating and getting things by, so
that some people don't notice, but our gay audience
can get it. We're all walking a tightrope. A lot of
the higher ups at the WB are gay, and it's just a
matter of not pissing off the Christian Right so they
don't go to the advertisers, and Maybelline doesn't
pull its ads off Buffy. The public's tolerance is
getting higher and higher, and now that Dawson's Creek has done it, it's set a precedent.
CF: Is it easier to do any of this in films than on
television?
JB: In independent films you can do whatever you want,
but then you have to find a distributor. Lions Gate
has been pretty open, and I don't think they would
have minded it being more graphic.
CF: How does it play for different audiences?
JB: We did a lot of test screenings early on, and the
people who respond the most strongly are women, gay
or straight, it doesn't matter, mostly under thirty.
That
happens to be who the filmmaker is, so maybe that's
part if it. But that's why it's important for more
women to direct. There are so few.
CF: What do you make of the overwhelming whiteness of
our pop cultural landscape?
JB: For my film, we always had RuPaul's character as
black, and the two boys at the camp as Asian and
Latino. So I made an effort, and I do feel like you
need to be responsible, as a filmmaker, to cast that
way. There's so much racism at every level of making
movies. The casting directors don't bring them in, the
agents don't sign them because there's less work, so
you have to look harder as a director, but I feel it's
your responsibility to do that. Fifty percent of my
crew was African American, because I had an awesome
line producer who hired them. But at the WB, there's
not one person of color who works as a writer,
producer, or director. And there's maybe three who
work on a crew of like 150. And for women, it's just
as bad. I totally believe in affirmative action in
hiring and everything else. Actually, my first choice
for Megan, before Natasha Lyonne, was Rosario Dawson,
but my executive producer wouldn't let me. He had a
point, that I was creating this All-American
character. And he said, "Jamie, she's Puerto Rican,"
and I said, "Yeah, but that's American!" We have so
many battles to fight.